Dhammic Life

Tatra bhikkhave ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:
Here, monks, (as for) those ascetics and brahmins who are of this argument, this view:

“Yaṁ kiñcāyaṁ purisapuggalo paṭisaṁvedeti,
“Whatever an individual experiences,
 sukhaṁ vā dukkhaṁ vā adukkhamasukhaṁ vā sabbaṁ taṁ Issaranimmānahetū” ti,
whether pleasant, painful, or neither-painful-nor-pleasant, all of that is due to the power of God,”
 tyāhaṁ upasaṅkamitvā evaṁ vadāmi:
having approached them, I say:

“Saccaṁ kira tumhe āyasmanto evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:
“Is it true that you venerables are of this argument, this view:

“Yaṁ kiñcāyaṁ purisapuggalo paṭisaṁvedeti,
“Whatever an individual experiences,
sukhaṁ vā dukkhaṁ vā adukkhamasukhaṁ vā sabbaṁ taṁ Issaranimmānahetū?” ti,
whether pleasant, painful, or neither-painful-nor-pleasant, all of that is due to the power of God?”,
te ce me evaṁ puṭṭhā “āmā” ti paṭijānanti, tyāhaṁ evaṁ vadāmi:
and if they agree with me when questioned thus, (saying) “yes”, I say to them:


Issaranimmānaṁ kho pana bhikkhave sārato paccāgacchataṁ
But, monks, for he who holds the power of God as the essential thing,
na hoti chando vā vāyāmo vā: “idaṁ vā karaṇīyaṁ idaṁ vā akaraṇīyan”-ti,
there is no desire nor effort (thinking): “this should be done, or this should not be done”,
iti karaṇīyākaraṇīye kho pana saccato thetato anupalabbhiyamāne,
but there being no truth or trust in what should be done or what should not be done,
muṭṭhassatīnaṁ anārakkhānaṁ viharataṁ,
he lives without mindfulness, without protection,
na hoti paccattaṁ sahadhammiko samaṇavādo.
and that individual cannot reasonably be called an ascetic.

Ayaṁ kho me bhikkhave tesu samaṇabrāhmaṇesu evaṁvādīsu evaṁdiṭṭhīsu,
This, monks, for the ascetics and brahmins who are of these arguments, these views,